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Matters of Consequence is a podcast built around conversations rather than topics.
Each episode is time spent with a guest who is doing something that feels meaningful. Sometimes that shows up through their work, sometimes through choices they have made, sometimes through the tensions they are living with. The conversations do not try to arrive at conclusions or package insight. They follow where the person is.
There is no fixed format and no expectation that a conversation needs to justify itself. It can move between professional life and personal experience, between clarity and uncertainty, between action and hesitation. That movement is part of the point.
What matters is paying attention. Listening long enough for complexity to surface, without rushing to explanation or outcome. The conversations are not about being right or having answers. They are about staying with what feels consequential while it is still unfolding.
If there is a red thread, it is an interest in people in motion. People who care about something enough to engage with it.

Matters of Consequence is hosted by Michael Hanf.
Michael works with organisations and leaders on questions of responsibility, change, and long-term impact, and has spent much of his professional life in and around sustainability, technology, and strategy.
This podcast grew out of a curiosity for conversations that don’t rush to conclusions, but stay with complexity long enough for something human to surface.










